Kobra Kai Dragon's Guide to PAGAN - ULTIMA 8
Secrets and Gameplay Guide – For Advanced Players Only!
Copyright (©) 2003 Elton Kheid Takara
Ultima, Avatar and Pagan are trademarks of Origin Systems and Eletronic Arts
IV. PART TWO: ADVANCED GUIDE (continuation)
15. CALM DOWN, DAMNED SORCERERS!
16. EVERLASTING INVISIBILITY (and Total Invisibility)
18. THE BLACKROCK FRAGMENTS CAN DRAIN MORE POWERS FROM THE TITANS
I never liked this guy. In fact, I’ve always taken pleasure in killing him or making him powerless. In 1995, I remember that my friend killed all Tenebraens after I sent him a saved game with Beren already unarmed. Never was a game so exciting when you kill a lot of innocent people without being punished as in Ultima 8.
There is a similar method described in the ‘It-he Software’ page called ‘Magna Carta’. Although I discovered it a long time ago, I need to say that someone had already published this technique before me, so Joseph Morris is the one to be congratulated.
To disarm Beren (in the beginning of the game) following this example, you need:
You can guess how these items work, so for the example I’ll use the three colored potions. They are all available in the beginning of the game in Tenebrae or near the Cemetery, with Skeleton Warriors.
Put all potions into your backpack (keep it open). Now enter battle mode. Beggars are usually more resistant than common peasants and they don’t move, so we’re going to attack one of them. Stand next to him, place the cursor over the blue potion in the backpack, double-right-click on it and press the PAUSE key when you’re about to kick the beggar. Just before you complete the move, double-click on the same potion. Press any key to continue the game. You’ll hit the man and immediatly fall to the ground. Don’t hasten the conversation between Beren and the Beggar, just wait until the Avatar is unfreezed. Now use the purple potion and immediatly talk to the beggar (double-left-click on him).
You must now hasten the conversation between Beren and the Beggar and after some time Beren will blow you up to pieces. After it you can dismiss the insolent beggar (and then the screen shall center on you) and drink the black potion (optional**). There, you’re done. Just carry your remains and drop them into the water to avoid trouble (because the end of the animation of your severed hand will trigger a flag that will kill you if the purple potion power wears out).
If you want, instead of kicking
the man, you can light a flask of oil (bottle) or a fire gem. It’ll be
much easier because you will have much more time to prepare yourself.
Now you can attack any Tenebraen you want without being distubed.
(*) You can try any variations you want. The method explained during the example helps because, normally, everybody wants to get rid of Beren as soon as possible, so all items there can be found near the beginning of the game. Hint: Potions can be easily found in the first house near the East entrance of Tenebrae (the one that has a man reading Toran’s book).
(**) See section EVERLASTING INVISIBILITY.
Beren definetly lost all respect from the Avatar. When you meet him (after you free Hydros) near the River of Lava, he’ll start automatically a conversation with you, which is split into two parts. During the second part he’ll say that, while in their Enclave, you live at the Sorcerers’ pleasure. What he says in the first part depends on his level of madness and if you’ve already met him.
Note1: If you want to skip this conversation, either jump from the Northwestern side of the map to the middle islet (be sure to walk over the raised area of the islet or you’ll trigger the conversation) or don’t release Hydros and use the tecnique described in the section ULTIMA 8 CAN BE A NON-LINEAR GAME!.
More stuff:
After you are given your truename (Daemion), thus enabling you to bind fire spells to foci, you can kill Beren easily by throwing him into the Lava (at the River of Lava). To do this, jump to the egg bound that triggers the conversation, but, before you reach it, double-click on the Focus of the Flash Spell (you can use anything that can unfreeze the Avatar, but eventually you’ll need to center him on the screen, so you’ll save time), but do not cast it yet.
When the second part of the conversation is beginning, double-click on Beren (while the cursor is still a cross-hair target). He’ll stop the conversation and teleport to the lava field (as if he was trying to begin the conversation again). Eventually, he may be engulfed in molten lava (it’s a matter of trial and error).
Now, after the dirt work, you may cast properly the Flash Spell (to a safe place, of course).
Note2: You can use this technique to continue the game after you chose to anger Beren. Just don’t double-click on him.
But you’re completely wrong if you think I’m done with Beren (I hate this guy!). Visit my Lab: CLONES LAB – A RESEARCH ON RESURRECTION.
15. CALM DOWN, DAMNED SORCERERS!
This another section for cheaters, yet, somehow different. If you issue some Sorcerer for the Calling (id est, you attack him/her) without following the rules described by Vardion and Bane, rob or anger another Sorcerer, you will be forever at war with all of them, no matter how many times you reload the map. If you cast Confusion Blast, sometimes it may work, but its effects won’t last much time (talk to them when this happen. Beren will say: ‘I will now give you the most important lesson of your life. Learn it well, I'll only be able to teach it to you once, fool!’).
The only way back here is through cheating. Leave the map first. Press F9, click on View/Edit and then on Usecode Flags and type the flag ‘avatarMasterSorcerer’ (it’s CASE SENSITIVE). Change its value to 0 (zero). Note that you must have enabled change Usecode Flags earlier.
Also, check which Sorcerers went berserk. Use this usecode flag: ‘***Mad’, where ‘***’ can be: malchir, arcadion, vardion, bane, beren, gorgrond (notice the lower case). Change all their values to 0 (zero). If they are completely mad at you, this value should be 3 (forget about Disciples, they are no trouble).
Now you can return to their Enclave and make them believe that nothing ever happened.
16. EVERLASTING INVISIBILITY (and Total Invisibility)
There are two ways to make yourself invisible forever. The first one is by blowing yourself up. In order to do so, you have to light a flask of oil, read the Trixter’s book inside of your backpack or let Beren do the work. To return to yourself again, just make yourself invincible, unfreeze and center yourself in the screen (to do this by talking, make sure you talk to somebody before you become invisible or you’ll have to reload a previously saved game). Throw your body remains into the water to avoid trouble.
The second method is simpler, but it’s only available near the end
of the game. Just make yourself invisible by any means and then use the
Flash Spell or be teleported either by the Master or by his portal.
Notes:
When you took the Breath of Wind from Stratos, you severed her link with the Theurgists. But you should be able to cast the spells since you have its power now. Although the story line of the game didn’t mean to make this possible, you can continue to cast air based spells even after you take this Blackrock fragment.
To do so, you must make Stratos think you did not fetch the Breath
of Wind. This is done by not putting this item into your backpack while
she is in the screen. To be explicit, cast a Reveal Spell or use a
Restore to Sight Scroll and the Blackrock fragment will appear. Now
cast an Aerial Servant Spell to catch it and choose the platform you
are as its destination. Now throw this item from platform to platform
until you are far enough from Stratos (just take care you don’t fall
into the water bellow). Now you can take the Breath of Wind and return
to Argent Rock (preferably using the Recall item). If you were
successful, every air based spells shall work, including those of other
Theurgists (and Stellos will not die).
Alternatively, you can modify this flag. Press F9, click on View/Edit and then on Usecode Flags and type ‘hasBreath’ (it’s CASE SENSITIVE). Change its value to 0. Note that you must have enabled change Usecode Flags earlier.
18. THE BLACKROCK FRAGMENTS CAN DRAIN MORE POWERS FROM THE TITANS
As you already know, you can use the Breath of Wind on Stratos (at Argent Rock) as a means to get her powers and also to grant you access to the Ethereal Void. What you probably didn’t get, is the fact that you can do this trick with Pyros, using the Tongue of Flame - but can’t with Lithos (it’s only possible if you cheat) and Hydros (you only say ‘Hmmm’) - , as long as you are able to unfreeze and center the Avatar in the screen (hint Flash Spell).
Another blackrock trick can be played to fool the Titans. When you reach Hydros in the Plane of Water, open your backpack and inside of it make the four usable blackrock fragments visible, one near the other. Afterwards you can use any of them to drain Hydros’ power. Preferably, use the Tear of the Seas first; then immediatly Pause the game (Pause Key) and choose another one while paused (preferably the Tongue of Flame). Unpause and Pause again. A crosshair target shall appear while the screen is paused. Use it on Hydros and it will also work and will drain even more power from the Titan. Poor Hydros... repeat for the other fragments (preferably the Heart of Earth and lastly the Breath of Wind), but timing it can be very difficult, so save your game first before trying this, or you will waste your time searching for the other Titans.
Hint: If you dropped them on the ground, double-click on the Obelisk Tip in order to get them all at once quickly.
This section will reveal how the Zealans most possibly raided Tenebrae, taking advantage of the weaknesses of the Pagan defences. There are many ways to traverse a wall or any barrier (even invisible) that prevents you from reaching the other side. I will explain the ones I still remember:
Examples:
Notes:
20. CLONES LAB – A RESEARCH ON RESURRECTION
Parenthesis: I’ve recently released a savegame file available either in my homepage or at Dino’s Ultima Page. It doesn’t interfere with the story line, and all the changes that are explained in this section can be easily accessed by downloading this file.
If you think that the spell of resurrection should be implemented in the game, worry no more. There is a way to resurrect people, replacing them by some clones. Nowadays, here in Earth, some people are trying to clone their children, parents and dear friends as a means of bringing them back from the dead. Although these guys were not successful and nothing has been proved yet, they do not consider that the ones they are trying to resurrect are long gone and that they are only creating similar new beings. However, in Pagan you can actually revive someone, although the clone in which the soul is inserted is not alike to the original person; instead, he is a copy of a model of creature that lives in Pagan.
If you ever travel to Pagan, you must follow these instructions in order to resurrect somebody you wish back. The ritual may be a little macabre (because it’s a world dominated by the Guardian), but they are really necessary. If you don’t like to cheat, you’ll only be able to resurrect the people of Daemon’s Crag. Don’t be sad. You’ll find an utility for this soon. Suffice to say for now that the cloned person will have the same strength and weakness of the matrix one.
First of all, arrive at Daemon’s Crag and back-up your
current game. Disarm a Sorcerer (don’t do this if you want to talk to
him/her again, unless you cheat or he is a Disciple). Bring the angered
Sorcerer, dead or alive, to the Great Pentacle (after Pyros is
summoned, before it recovers its powers from the Tongue of Flame) and
he/she will vanish; or make him/her sink into soft lava. After this,
there are several ways to create the Sorcerer’s clone. To simplifly,
I’ll mention only one method now, but before this, save your game in
another slot just to avoid losing your normal game.
Go to a place where there is another person and just cast the Summon Creature Spell. Place the creature anywhere (try to notice if it behaves strangely) and tell it to attack the nearby person. Now, run away before it actually attacks him/her (reload the scenario) and return to it. Click over the creature and if nothing appears, reload your previously saved game; but if the name of the mage you killed appears, you made it! You’ve resurrected the Sorcerer by creating (sort of) a clone of his. Now, reload the map and go to the house where the Sorcerer whom you killed used to live. He’ll be there living a normal life (or not!).
Press F9 and teleport to NPC 31 (U8NPC), who is
Gorgrond. No need to talk to anybody here.
Go somewhere on this map
where there is soft lava. Pick up one piece using the hackmover (make
sure you
have the correct piece and that no Sorcerer is near you to find you
guilty of ‘stealing’ the scenario) and put it in your backpack.
Alternatively, you may create a piece by yourself by looking for the
correct type and frame for the soft lava (U8gfx) and creating it by
using the (new) commands from the menu Create or Give (U8menu). Using
the Information option in the Cheat menu may also help you know the
correct Type and Frame (for it look for the section CREATING OBJECTS
ahead).
Put the piece of lava under the NPC (or the NPC over the lava) you wish to Clone or drop the corpse of a NPC you wish to be resurrected into the lava.
Note1: Take care if you’re dealing with Sorcerers. Follow the instructions from the example above and read MODIFYING FLAGS and CALM DOWN, DAMNED SORCERERS! sections. (Without cheating) If someone dies without your direct influence (for instance, Bane or Vardion can be killed during the Ritual of Fire by Pyros, and one of them is certainly killed during the Daemon event), he or she will not be angry with you, so you can throw his or her body into molten lava and you can resurrect the deceased Sorcerer later. The only problem is that you must use a spell that defines the target after the creature is created, in this case, The Summon Creature spell. Before you cast it, double-click on the Recall Item. Now, quickly, cast the spell and define the monster destination. Before you define your target, however, teleport yourself out of the Enclave. After you arrive, let’s say, in Tenebrae, you may do what you want and the resurrected Sorcerer will not be angered and you can talk to him or her again. The same can be applied if any ‘happy’ (not angry) Sorcerer dies falling directly into soft lava (very difficult) or if you kill one of them in one hit (very easy with Call Destruction, except for Arcadion -that can be eliminated with Banish Daemon-,, Beren and Malchir).
Note2: To avoid problems with mages (Mordea, Vividos, Mythran, NPCs calling Beren, etc.), if it’s possible, make the clone attack another creature or person instead of yourself; if it isn’t, use an invulnerability spell and be prepared because unfreezing or centering the screen on the Avatar may be necessary. Better yet, enter dead-mode (press ‘alt-4’)
Note3: Theurgists may flee if you don’t (or can’t) specify an enemy for them to attack. Similar to when you assault them. Weaklings! To solve this problem, enter dead-mode (press ‘alt-4’) before creating your clone or specify a target (other than yourself) to be attacked.
Note4: To create an item, see the section CREATING OBJECTS.
Cast Summon Creature anywhere. The creature that
appears is ramdomly chosen, so save your game first if you want a
specific result. If you want the NPC transformed into a Changeling,
simply reload the map after you’ve created one or cast the Confusion
Blast Spell. If, instead, you want an Avatar, reload the scenario after
you’ve created a Changeling; when you return, you’ll see that it will
shapeshift into the Avatar. Now reload the map or cast the Confusion
Blast Spell to make it up with the NPC. Note: This spell automatically
unfreezes the Avatar and also lets you choose the clone’s target, so
this is usually the best option, if not the only one.
There are
a lot of Ghouls lying down just like actual dead bodies waiting for you
to appear (in the Cemetery, Catacombs, etc.). To make your clone as a
Ghoul, just wake up one. No need to find the correct body in the City
of Dead to resurrect a person.
Not the ones that help you. The ones that want to kill
you in the Plane of Air. To create the clone, simply talk to Stratos
there (use the cheat teleporter or the Ethereal Travel Spell) and many
of them shall appear. Now teleport yourself out of there before they do
something bad (like toasting you or fleeing like cowards). By the way,
the coordinates to Stratos are: (x,y,z)=(14889,3891,176) on map 46.
If you thought about casting Summon Daemon
Spell, you are wrong! The correct answer would be casting Summon Daemon
for Idiots. Yes, that Sorcerer Spell that had no apparent utility.
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This Guide is Copyrighted (©) 2003 to Elton Kheid Takara
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